"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"The paintings were made from wood and it took quite a while: I would coat them with fifty coats of paint and have to press things with glue and put the frames on. I couldn’t make them as quickly as I wanted, and it was only after maybe three years of doing them that way that I realized I had to have a mold to produce quantities."