"I still think the social function of art is that kind of negative aesthetic. Otherwise there’s no social function for it."
"One of the things I was concerned about was that they should be distinctly different. It’s very easy to, say, choose four shapes and have them all be different: one’s a triangle, one’s a square, one’s a circle, and one’s a parallelogram. But when you have to design 144 shapes that are instantly different from one another, it’s a lot harder than you think."