"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I had an uncle, Jon Gnagy, who had a television show called Learn to Draw. He designed drawings so that he could then teach other people how to do them. He would show you step by step by step, and I just got the feeling that it never occurred to him to come up with a painting or a drawing that he couldn’t tell someone else how to do."