"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"Once I started learning Adobe Illustrator to combine shapes it freed me to think in larger quantities. I don’t know if it got me to think about things I couldn’t have done otherwise. It was just that if I used the computer I could do more of them, more quickly. I spent about five months making all the little parts that I designed for The Shapes Project by hand, the way you do with a drawing program—filling in, getting them to the right size, testing, and making sure it worked."