"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
The mannequins—those tagging ones—have always been like illustrations to me, like of things that friends and I used to do when we were younger. Our situations we'd be in, like trying to get up higher and higher—getting on each other's shoulders."
WATCH: Barry McGee: Tagging