"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I don’t know at what point I would have discovered them, but Goya and Duchamp are probably my favorites. It’s Goya’s use of grotesqueness, making things horrific seem comical (but still horrific and poignant), and the ability to be recording, much less living through, those events but balancing that with his own version of society portraiture."