"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"It was much harder than using myself because when I use myself I can play, so that every single picture is completely different. I’m never really sure when I’ve experimented with other people as models. I’m frustrated at trying to capture on film something that I can’t even articulate because I don’t really know what it is I am looking for until I see it."