"Drawing is very central to the way that I work because it can be blown up, taken apart.... You can just keep on pushing it, like this infinite machine...."
"How do you make one clown really look like a different person from another and have some character underneath the makeup? And what could that character be? Are they good or bad? Unsuccessful? Down on their luck? It was all about that makeup and everything that they do in order to create their faces."