"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I always shot in slide film, I would project the slides onto the wall and just measure. With this work, I needed a digital projector. It was such a change for me to see the images really big. Suddenly they seemed much more tragic and had such real presence. They felt like real people."