"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I don’t think art has a possibility of providing aesthetic redemption. But I think we have to try. There’s a beautiful quote from the Italian philosopher Giorgio Agamben. He says that when the victim gives account of his own ruin, life subsists even in the ruin. And I think that’s our task, to make that subsist, not to allow that to be forgotten—to bring that to our present tense."