"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I was thinking, “It’s not that extraordinary. It’s an industrial, modernist space.” It’s not like you are entering Hagia Sofia or you’re in front of the pyramids in Egypt. I didn’t think it was of that character, but people had that impression. I thought it was unbelievably narcissistic. So what I wanted to do was to change that perspective, reverse it entirely, turn it upside down. Instead of looking up, you would have to look down as a way of seeing reality."