"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"To me, it’s a good combination of the American west and the way Los Angeles industrializes landscape. I’m not a pure landscape photographer, and I’m not interested in pure landscape, the Ansel Adams way for example. What I like is when cityscape and landscape meet. Then I use infrared film to get rid of presence."