"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I like photography as a set of rules. Maybe the only way that I break them is that I take apart the photograph after it has been taken. But in terms of presentation, I still like the photograph to be framed. I like it to be matted so that people read it as a photograph and not as a painting or a drawing."