"I still think the social function of art is that kind of negative aesthetic. Otherwise there’s no social function for it."
"What kind of gray tone creates these nice gray tones? And what level of grayness makes black tones, not losing the medium tones, but extremely deep black? And then, highlights should be interesting but never washed out. There’s no pure white; there are always some tones there. Even in the deepest shadow, there’s a tone which is possible to print on the silver surface, but not in a catalogue."