"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"Certain works have a timeless quality. I think there are two ways to enter the eternal or to have a dialogue with the eternal. One deals with history. Connecting to human history there’s a sense of the ephemeral and ethereal, a kind of spiritual abstraction of thought."