"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I always felt that it was autobiographical. And I’ve always thought of myself as the young boy in the back pushing the pig, pushing in the belief of trying to make work that would communicate to people that their own cultural and personal history up to that moment was absolutely perfect—and that that would give them a foundation to move forward in life."