"I still think the social function of art is that kind of negative aesthetic. Otherwise there’s no social function for it."
"I’m always interested in things that we don’t call art—and I have to say, "Well why not? What can I do to this to make it art? How can I change people’s minds?" I would like people to say, "You can’t do that." I love it that all of a sudden because I’ve said it’s art, somebody believes me."