"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I’m always interested in things that we don’t call art—and I have to say, "Well why not? What can I do to this to make it art? How can I change people’s minds?" I would like people to say, "You can’t do that." I love it that all of a sudden because I’ve said it’s art, somebody believes me."