"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I was getting tired of hearing the complaint, "My kid could do this," and "We don’t get it. What’s modern art? Blah, blah, blah." And I wondered what would really happen if you gave people what they wanted, something they always look at."