"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I’m not looking for the normal stuff. Or I notice things that people don’t normally notice. Actually, I’ve said to my students, "Don’t look at things. Look between two things and see what you notice." That’s not a normal way to look."