"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"As you work you really recognize what drives you to make work. For me it’s about being able to make a painting that will arrest me. It has to engage me. And that’s not about any description of who I am or where I come from. All of that informs my perspective on the world and therefore also the direction of the work."