"I still think the social function of art is that kind of negative aesthetic. Otherwise there’s no social function for it."
"I went to see the Babylon show at the Pergamon in Berlin. There was a deep description about the history of Babylon, the number of wars, the number of times that a certain type of history has been erased. The blatant, haphazard wiping out of part of that history can be very depressing. The other side of it is that things will continue and that there is a different kind of growth that can come again and that things evolve."