"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I’m not trying to make these paintings to understand my time in the same way that I was five years ago. I’m not trying to make a painting that makes sense at the moment. That will happen through the work whether the piece feels like it was made for the moment or not."