"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"Now I approach a picture out of a collection of information that comes to me, and through the experiment of projecting information and working with the language, the mark-making, painting the color and texture, and whatever other elements that I want to bring into the work."