"My approach tends to be from experiments. I need the challenge. If I know how to do something well, there's no need to do it all the time because it becomes a little monotonous. So I like to find a challenge."
"They started with graphic marks that almost looked like glyphs and little symbols and quickly evolved into notation and then more of a gesture—miniature gestures that can mean different things in my mind and in the work depending on how they operate and lean."