"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"Most amazing to me is when something happens in the work that, without an expectation or desire in the impulse of making it, completely illuminates a situation. What I’m most interested in is how I push the work, allow it to have conceptual meaning, and allow it to be free enough that it reveals itself to me."