"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"Some days I’ll be engaged in painting, and make great headway, and then the next day I’ll come in and I have no access. You can have the whole day just feel like you’re spinning your wheels. But I think that’s part of the work—being in the studio, just looking at the work for a long time, and realizing the painting."