"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I’ve looked a great deal at Chinese calligraphy paintings. I haven’t studied them in the way art historians have but, in terms of that kind of mark-making, I think each mark has meaning because of the way that it was made. And that meaning is conveyed by the lean on the mark."