"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"At the same time the posture can be seen as a kind of symbolic Buddha posture, but it’s different because usually the Buddha lifts his hands under his head. But it’s also very much related to my formalistic practices, using those cross shapes and horizontal and vertical structures, and abandonment of desire."