"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"Sometimes I get inspiration for a painting from how you glaze ceramics. When you glaze a pot, you pour some liquid glaze into it and then let it run down, back into a bucket, so the flow of the glaze makes the image. The image is the drip and the pour, so it’s just like in a pot."