"I still think the social function of art is that kind of negative aesthetic. Otherwise there’s no social function for it."
"Sometimes I get inspiration for a painting from how you glaze ceramics. When you glaze a pot, you pour some liquid glaze into it and then let it run down, back into a bucket, so the flow of the glaze makes the image. The image is the drip and the pour, so it’s just like in a pot."