"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I think the artworks are icons. I haven’t used the word ‘iconography’ about it, but I’ve got my vanishing points, my palettes, my surfing-on-acid period. So each thing almost works as an icon or maybe an ideograph— as one idea that has resonance and makes you have thoughts about other ideas."