"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"That has become a very important part of my work life—looking at diptychs made with a photograph and an abstract image. Ideas are put together almost in a linguistic way. I imagine images and think a lot, and the process is very similar to how it is when I write."