"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"One thing that really interests me comes especially out of Japanese painting, even kimonos and screens, where you have a number of different kinds of space in the same painting. You have a kind of deep space and then you have something right up on the surface. Two Lane Blacktop (2008) has that."