"I still think the social function of art is that kind of negative aesthetic. Otherwise there’s no social function for it."
"I referred to the set as a trap: you entered it and you couldn't get out. Everything around it was a void. It floated in a void. For years I kept the set but didn't show it again. All the materials, the ketchup and whatever, were old. The question is, how does it continue? The work is evolving and changing."