"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I referred to the set as a trap: you entered it and you couldn't get out. Everything around it was a void. It floated in a void. For years I kept the set but didn't show it again. All the materials, the ketchup and whatever, were old. The question is, how does it continue? The work is evolving and changing."