"In the paintings where it's there—the tenderness—I work for it. I'm not afraid of it. If I could put my bleeding heart in there, I would."
"In the ‘70s I started photographing, but then I actually was really interested in the photograph as painting. And so it wasn’t purely documentation; it was about figuration in painting. I would photograph a performance—I would have fifty photographs—and I was really into looking at the images as a type of painting or as a type of figuration in a frame."