"I still think the social function of art is that kind of negative aesthetic. Otherwise there’s no social function for it."
"In the ‘70s I started photographing, but then I actually was really interested in the photograph as painting. And so it wasn’t purely documentation; it was about figuration in painting. I would photograph a performance—I would have fifty photographs—and I was really into looking at the images as a type of painting or as a type of figuration in a frame."