"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"There’s something coming from making sculpture and making the films—and it’s about looking to flip the thing. So you might want to put Elizabeth Taylor in a pirate movie and depict it as Who’s Afraid
of Virginia Woolf, and you might insert a Bruce Nauman thing. And you might use a term like fucking it up to describe this."