"Words are just a way we communicate. Images are a way we communicate. And I couldn't figure out why they had to be in different baskets."
"They become victimized within what we would think of as expressionism. It’s the emotion of pounding on them or twisting
off a leg that’s expressionistic, like a sculptural gesture, but in another way it’s like a brutal effect on the sculpture. And then it’s a form of abstracting, or of just directing energy at it."