"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"They become victimized within what we would think of as expressionism. It’s the emotion of pounding on them or twisting
off a leg that’s expressionistic, like a sculptural gesture, but in another way it’s like a brutal effect on the sculpture. And then it’s a form of abstracting, or of just directing energy at it."