"You know, art can be something which can really disempower people, or it can be a vehicle which can empower people."
"They become victimized within what we would think of as expressionism. It’s the emotion of pounding on them or twisting
off a leg that’s expressionistic, like a sculptural gesture, but in another way it’s like a brutal effect on the sculpture. And then it’s a form of abstracting, or of just directing energy at it."