"In the paintings where it's there—the tenderness—I work for it. I'm not afraid of it. If I could put my bleeding heart in there, I would."
"In the ‘60s I painted paintings with my hands, flat on the ground. And then I would light them on fire and burn them. I didn’t think of this as performance or theater. I was painting and burning them—it was like a flash fire that would turn them black—and there was an action aspect to painting beyond just the action of a de Kooning."