"I still think the social function of art is that kind of negative aesthetic. Otherwise there’s no social function for it."
"In the ‘60s I painted paintings with my hands, flat on the ground. And then I would light them on fire and burn them. I didn’t think of this as performance or theater. I was painting and burning them—it was like a flash fire that would turn them black—and there was an action aspect to painting beyond just the action of a de Kooning."