"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I was thinking about Bush or the Queen or bin Laden. In one way, they’re real; in another way, I kept thinking of them like Mickey Mouse or Santa Claus, like media characters or some sort of fabrication. But on the other hand, they were not fabrications at all."