"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"What begins to be important is that they start to see the aesthetic of this, or what I’m looking for, but then it begins to be about how we don’t contrive that aesthetic. Some of it really is just about letting something go and finding something."