"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"I don’t really buy the idea that order and disorder are the same. On the one hand it’s the pleasure of the optical illusion if you think you recognize what you’re seeing but it’s something completely different. But it’s also about chaos, which we somehow force into a pattern of coherence in terms of how we have to make sense of the world."