"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
"In light of the impossibility of that kind of certainty and optimism, what is the work that can be done that doesn’t simply pretend that part of the world doesn’t exist— that doesn’t follow Clement Greenberg and say that the world is the canvas and that nothing exists beyond the canvas?"