"From early on, very early on, I understood that art is not about what you say. It’s about these other things that you don’t say."
From the series, "Exclusive"
From the series
Filmed at their respective studios in 2006, longtime friends Judy Pfaff and Ursula von Rydingsvard discuss their experience collaborating in 1992 on a large sculpture titled "Zygmunt." Commissioned by Exit Art founders Jeanette Ingberman and Papo Colo, "Zygmunt" was an intersection of their ideas regarding weight and space and an opportunity for Pfaff and von Rydingsvard to learn from each other.
CREDITS | Producer: Ian Forster, Wesley Miller & Nick Ravich. Interview: Susan Sollins. Camera: Joel Shapiro. Sound: Roger Phenix. Editor: Morgan Riles. Artwork Courtesy: Exit Art, Judy Pfaff & Ursula von Rydingsvard. Archival Photography Courtesy: Exit Art & James Hamilton. Special Thanks: Audrey Christensen & Andria Morales. Video: © 2012 Art21, Inc. All rights reserved.