"For us, the idea of having a work that has contradictions is very important—when, in affirming something, it includes itself and attacks itself. How can you put together all of these things that have nothing to do with each other? You use glue! Glue can be an idea, a word. You can use an ideological glue."
From the series, "Exclusive"
Interviewed in his Los Angeles studio, Paul McCarthy discusses the genesis of his "Black and White Tapes" (1970–75), a suite of 13 videos begun while he was a student at the University of Southern California (USC). Also featuring excerpts from the video "Ma Bell" (1971) and works in the exhibition "Central Symmetrical Rotation Movement—Three Installations, Two Films" (2008) at the Whitney Museum of American Art in New York.
Producer: Wesley Miller & Nick Ravich. Interview: Susan Sollins. Camera: Bob Elfstrom & Richard Numeroff. Sound: Doug Dunderdale & Merce Williams. Editor: Lizzie Donahue & Joaquin Perez. Artwork Courtesy: Paul McCarthy. Special Thanks: Whitney Museum of American Art.